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Community Portal

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Welcome to the community portal.

This is the place for general inquiries, your ideas or comments.

A first-rate skin

I have a couple of wikis in the Miraheze wikifarm, one of which (my Great War website) is now using the Pivot skin. Firstly, this skin looks amazing and works so well with various devices, one of the reasons I chose it. Secondly, the aesthetics look great and the clean lines and bold features make this the perfect skin for my project. I am in the process, however, of making a few tweaks here and there, which for the most part, have been successful. I am still working on making a few minor changes but not being a programmer my understanding of how things work are limited. Borderman (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2018 (CEST)

Thanks a lot for your feedback. Great that you like this skin. --Kghbln (talk) 12:14, 3 June 2018 (CEST)

Contact page

I would like to point out that this site really needs a community page, or at the very least, a way of contacting the administrators. Having no guest editing or a "contact us" page with at least one point of contact made things so much more difficult in asking about the skin or doing general research. Borderman (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2018 (CEST)

I guess you found the community portal right away. :) However I mark this page as the entry point for discussions more clearly. Requiring registration helps preventing spam. I do not think that requiring registration is to much of a burden either. --Kghbln (talk) 12:14, 3 June 2018 (CEST)
I did, in fact the community portal was the first place I tried when I had a question but was surprised to find it empty. Registering for an account is easy but for some reason when I tried the temporary password, it didn't work. I had to get another temporary password, which worked. Even having a generic email contact would have been handy. But I understand the need to prevent spam, which I find most contemptible. Borderman (talk) 00:21, 4 June 2018 (CEST)
This is indeed a wiki I do not have a look at every day so having some kind of "protection" is preferable. Cheers --Kghbln (talk) 09:38, 6 June 2018 (CEST)

Font Awesome versions

With regards to font awesome, they are now using version 5, which is a complete re-write and the version 4.7 does not work. I had to use font awesome bootstrap cheats for the icons I wanted to appear. A useful website for a quick fix for my needs but I am wondering if there is any way version 5 can be included in a future update of the skin? Borderman (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2018 (CEST)

See this issue --Kghbln (talk) 12:14, 3 June 2018 (CEST)
Does this mean an update to version 5 might happen? Or are the sizeable issues surrounding an update heading in the direction of using using something else? I'm not using the icons excessively but one thing that attracted me to the skin was that font awesome was fully supported. Borderman (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (CEST)
The issues are Font Awesome now has a open source and a pro version. Problem is they changed some classes to the open source version. If I do update it or anyone sends a PR to update it, there will be some backwards compatibility issues. Hutchy68 (talk) 01:32, 6 June 2018 (CEST)
Seems like they threw a spanner in the works. FA v4.7 was fine the way it was and I understand there would be quite a bit of work involved to make v5 work. I guess as long as users can still use v4.7 in Pivot there'll be no need to update any time soon. Borderman (talk) 22:25, 6 June 2018 (CEST)

Wikitable and image thumb styles

I really like the basic and clean look of Mediawiki's wikitable and image thumbs, which have a 1px solid grey border and lines. Using the Pivot skin has removed those, left-aligned everything I had centered and increased the overall size of the tables. I have tweaked one on the templates that transluded a wikitable on a few hundred pages but I have a various other wikitables throughout the site that also look slightly out of place. How can I get those styles back but still keep using this skin, which has by a long shot performed much better than any other skin I have used (apart from Vector). Borderman (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2018 (CEST)

Well, this is probably related to this skin's usage of the Foundation framework. However I guess general CSS tweaks could be served with the skin. --Kghbln (talk) 12:14, 3 June 2018 (CEST)
So, does this mean I will have to tweak all my other templates that use the wikitable class? Or do you mean a class that will effectively change the foundation framework's look back to the general style of a wikitable and image thumb? If the latter, what would the CSS consist of? Borderman (talk) 00:39, 4 June 2018 (CEST)
Just add the code found on my user page User:Hutchy68/pivot.css to MediaWIki:Pivot.css on your site. That is the CSS used for wikitables on MediaWiki. Make sure you clear your cache of the css. CTRL-F5 Hutchy68 (talk) 01:30, 6 June 2018 (CEST)
Have added the code, my wikitables are back, thanks. Borderman (talk) 22:26, 6 June 2018 (CEST)

I have created a couple of other classes for tables to display slightly differently from each other but I am having a problem displaying the image "thumb" correctly, example on my Second Battle of Ypres page. I made a couple of tweaks to get the border back with the 3px inner padding but I can't get the magnify button to display. I like the clean, crispness of the borderless images, however, it would be nice to have the image thumb option and to be able to display it center as well (see below). Any suggestions as to a fix would be most appreciated, thanks. Borderman (talk) 21:59, 16 June 2018 (CEST)

Notification icons

Is there a way of putting the notification icons either in the top bar near the login icon or in the actions drop-down (with a notifications badge that appears on the actions button) instead? I find them useful but a little in the way where they are.

I intend to continue to design my website around this skin and hope that there are ways of making these further tweaks to maintain the certain look and feel I am after, combined with the power of a skin that performs excellently on all devices. Borderman (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2018 (CEST)

These notification icons are a pain in the ... Nearly every version of the Echo extension comes with substantial changes here. Tom had a hard time to get this working in a sane way. However I will point him to this suggestion for him to comment. --Kghbln (talk) 12:14, 3 June 2018 (CEST)
I have noticed they do move from place to place. Sometimes the alerts icon moves lower down the page for what appears like no reason at all but I think that has something to do with me using CSS to move them slightly. If I could just get them stationary in the top bar that would be great but I haven't found a way to do that yet. I think what would be great is to not see them at until a message or notification pops up. That would be an ideal situation but probably one that causes a migraine in sorting out! Borderman (talk) 22:33, 6 June 2018 (CEST)

File "center" parameter not working

I was just wondering if this issue is also connected to Foundation. Using the center parameter [[File:Demo4.jpg|400px|center]] doesn't seem to be working. This is quite a big issue as I use the center parameter for a few pictures. How is this best resolved or what is the best work-around? Thanks. Borderman (talk) 21:51, 16 June 2018 (CEST)

Just revisiting this as not having centred images is a bit of a problem, especially when transcribing works that specifically have centred images. Any way around this please? Seems odd for the "center" parameter to not work when it is a fundamental part of displaying images in Mediawiki, as is using the "thumb" parameter to automatically right align with a border. Borderman (talk) 23:15, 25 June 2018 (CEST)
The "center" class is not being applied to the image. I guess it is worth filing an issue for this. --Kghbln (talk) 10:15, 26 June 2018 (CEST)